Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519

07/24/2019 05:15 PM House FINANCE

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05:18:41 PM Start
05:19:50 PM HB2003
05:23:57 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to 7/25/19 at 9:00 a.m. --
*+ HB2003 APPROP: PAYMENT OF PFD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Uniform Rule 23(a) Waived
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                  SECOND SPECIAL SESSION                                                                                        
                       July 24, 2019                                                                                            
                         5:18 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:18:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Note: Meeting was recessed and reconvened on 7/25/19 at                                                                        
9:00 a.m.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston called the House Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 5:18 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Co-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Gary Knopp                                                                                                       
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                         
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Erin Shine, Staff, Representative Jennifer Johnston                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 2003   APPROP: PAYMENT OF PFD                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          HB 2003 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                           
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston reviewed the agenda for the meeting. She                                                                      
clarified that the committee would hear an introduction of                                                                      
HB 2003.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 2003                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making special appropriations for the payment                                                                      
     of permanent fund dividends; and providing for an                                                                          
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:19:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz  MOVED   to   ADOPT  proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  2003,  Work   Draft  31-LS1141\M                                                                    
(Caouette 7/24/19).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston asked her staff to review the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:20:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIN   SHINE,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  JENNIFER   JOHNSTON,                                                                    
reviewed  the changes  in  the  CS. The  CS  removed the  $1                                                                    
billion transfer  from the  Permanent Fund  Earnings Reserve                                                                    
Account (ERA)  to the General  Fund. She explained  that the                                                                    
language was included in separate  legislation that had just                                                                    
been  considered on  the  House floor.  She  noted that  the                                                                    
deleted language was  located in version A of  HB 2003, page                                                                    
1, lines 4 through 6.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Shine  explained  that the  bill  would  appropriate  a                                                                    
Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD). She noted  the bill language                                                                    
had been considered in a  previous piece of legislation. The                                                                    
bill  would  appropriate  $172,200,000  from  the  Statutory                                                                    
Budget Reserve  (SBR) to the dividend  fund and $901,470,000                                                                    
from   the  General   Fund  to   the   dividend  fund.   The                                                                    
appropriation equated to a PFD  of approximately $1,605. She                                                                    
added that the  bill assumed the reverse  sweep was obtained                                                                    
and there  were sufficient  funds in  the SBR.  She detailed                                                                    
that without  the reverse sweep  the bill would  have hollow                                                                    
authority under Section  1(b), which would lower  the PFD to                                                                    
$1,336.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:22:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  stated that  $172 million from  the SBR                                                                    
would  bring the  PFD amount  from  approximately $1,300  to                                                                    
approximately  $1,600.  He  wondered  if  the  $172  million                                                                    
transfer  was contingent  on HB  2002,  which contained  the                                                                    
reverse  sweep  and  transfer  language.  Alternatively,  he                                                                    
wondered if the $172 million was part of a reverse sweep.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Shine responded that in  SB 2002 the reverse sweep would                                                                    
need to  be achieved  to repopulate  the SBR  account, which                                                                    
currently had a zero balance  (without the reverse sweep, HB
2003 gave hollow authority). She  explained that the reverse                                                                    
sweep was necessary  in order to transfer the  funds for the                                                                    
payment of PFDs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  set  the bill  aside  and  recessed  the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  2003  was  HEARD  and  HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:23:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Note:  Meeting was  recessed and  reconvened on  7/25/19 at                                                                    
9:00 a.m.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 2003 CS WORKDRAFT vM.pdf HFIN 7/24/2019 5:15:00 PM
HB2003
CS HB 2003 FIN Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 7/24/2019 5:15:00 PM
HB2003